arguments that turn into chicken/egg cycles

If a conversation gets stagnant and two posters, be they mod or otherwise, continue to reiterate the same points, does anyone think that the person who gives up first is the loser?

Is it poster X's fault that poster Y compulsively responds? No. But if poster X would stop, poster Y would have nothing to respond to. I don't think it would be a victory for poster Y to get the last word, but I do think poster Y experiences victory by holding enough control over poster X to get them to continue a pea-brained fight for days at a time.

It's a snooze for the entire board, so can't someone just be the bigger person and let it die? Particularly if one of them is a mod. Can't that be a new mod responsibility? To not throw Miracle-Gro on the most asinine of fights?

i have no idea what you're talking about... :rolleyes: :D

i'll try and be a better mod & christian in the future...for now...you're stuck with my foibles and shortcomings...

If a conversation gets stagnant and two posters, be they mod or otherwise, continue to reiterate the same points, does anyone think that the person who gives up first is the loser?

Many people do believe that--especially the other person ("see, you have no response to my brilliantly stated point--that proves I'm right!")

What a waste.

Phil - if the other person believes that, do you care? The more small minded someone is, the less I care what they think.

It seems with the Mets playing the way they are everyone's a bit edgier so you get more fights over things that aren't worth fighting about.

And the stuff that is worth fighting about gets buried in long article postings explaining things no one needs explained (like what the constitution is).

But I don't think all the fights involve a mod. Maybe you just notice more when a mod is involved in them.

...and what is a message board without inane back and forth bickering??...geez...tigger would have 75% less posts without it... ;)

Those are mostly cartoon posts. If I didn't post cartoons I'd have 50% less posts.

go ahead, run the numbers. :P

There are mods here :lookarou:

you betcha...:hammer:

There are mods here :lookarou:
Yes there are, and they all love Castillo. Which makes them deeply suspect.

there are arguments here?

Yes, and they all love mods, which makes them deeply suspect...

Egg.

Egg.
No way . . . chicken

i'm getting the last word on this one...rooster

Yes, and they all love mods, which makes them deeply suspect...
That doesn't even make sense. I think you're still thinking about "pulling it out" when it suits you.

I propose that the mods enforce a new rule that arguments that turn into chicken/egg cycles can last no longer than the gestation period of a chicken's egg, whatever that may be.


On edit: Apparently it's about 21 days, which seems fair.

i believe it's 21 days...so not a good idea...

I don't believe either of you really knows how many days it is.

hey...i'm a joisey farm boy...i gotta know that one...

Here's a scary thought:

It takes a newly hatched chicken 6-8 months to reach maturity.

One that is force fed and given steroids: 28 days.

One that is force fed and given steroids: 28 days.


28 Days Later:


http://www.chickenquest.com/bald_chicken.jpg

http://rickoshea.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/man_with_a_very_big_cock.jpg

Here's a scary thought:

It takes a newly hatched chicken 6-8 months to reach maturity.

One that is force fed and given steroids: 28 days.
Scarier still, is that you know this information

It takes a newly hatched chicken 6-8 months to reach maturity.

One that is force fed and given steroids: 28 days.

Yet, some long-time posters still haven't reached maturity after several years. ;)

i'm getting the last word on this one...rooster

pterodactyl

28 Days Later:


http://www.chickenquest.com/bald_chicken.jpg


What the pluck is that!?!

i'm getting the last word on this one...rooster
Then where did the rooster originate?

( I had to be so careful in wording that one)

Phil - if the other person believes that, do you care? The more small minded someone is, the less I care what they think.


Ive had my share of arguments here, its not really a case of winning the argument but defending my position. I agree its probably a snoozer for the rest of the board. I dont like it when it gets personal, since most here dont know me and yes Ive been at fault too.

Then where did the rooster originate?

( I had to be so careful in wording that one)


It was Created.

Ive had my share of arguments here, its not really a case of winning the argument but defending my position. I agree its probably a snoozer for the rest of the board. I dont like it when it gets personal, since most here dont know me and yes Ive been at fault too.
Plus you always start it. :P

Well, here's one way to summarily terminate chicken/egg matters:

WASHINGTON (AP) - An undercover video shot by an animal rights group at an Iowa egg hatchery shows workers discarding unwanted chicks by sending them alive into a grinder, and other chicks falling through a sorting machine to die on the factory floor.

Chicago-based Mercy for Animals said it shot the video at Hy-Line North America's hatchery in Spencer, Iowa, over a two-week period in May and June. The video was obtained Monday by The Associated Press.

Hy-Line said in a statement it has started an investigation "of the entire situation," adding that it would have helped their investigation "had we been aware of the potential violation immediately after it occurred."

The video, shot with a hidden camera and microphone by a Mercy for Animals employee who got a job at the plant, shows a Hy-Line worker sorting through a conveyor belt of chirping chicks, flipping some of them into a chute like a poker dealer flips cards.

These chicks, which a narrator says are males, are then shown being dropped alive into a grinding machine.

In other parts of the video, a chick is shown dying on the factory floor amid a heap of egg shells after falling through a sorting machine. Another chick, also still alive, is seen lying on the floor after getting scalded by a wash cycle, according to the video narrator.

Hy-Line said the video "appears to show an inappropriate action and violation of our animal welfare policies," referring to chicks on the factory floor.

But the company also noted that "instantaneous euthanasia" - a reference to killing of male chicks by the grinder - is a standard practice supported by the animal veterinary and scientific community.

According to Mercy for Animals, male chicks are of no use to the industry because they can't lay eggs and don't grow large or quickly enough to be raised profitably for meat. That results in the killing of 200 million male chicks a year.

The United Egg Producers, a trade group for U.S. egg farmers, confirmed that figure and the practice behind it.

"There is, unfortunately, no way to breed eggs that only produce female hens," said the group's spokesman, Mitch Head. "If someone has a need for 200 million male chicks, we're happy to provide them to anyone who wants them. But we can find no market, no need."

Using a grinder, Head said, "is the most instantaneous way to euthanize chicks."

There is no federal law that ensures the humane euthanasia of animals on farms or hatcheries, according to Jonathan Lovvorn, vice president and chief counsel of the Humane Society of the United States.

Hy-Line says on its Web site that its Iowa facility produces 33.4 million chicks. Based on that figure, Mercy for Animals estimates a similar number of male chicks are killed at the facility each year. Hy-Line did not comment on that estimate.

Mercy for Animals says it will call on the nation's 50 largest grocery chains to include labels on their eggs that say, "Warning: Male chicks are ground-up alive by the egg industry."

Head called that proposal "almost a joke," saying the group had no credible authority, and had questionable motives. "This is a group which espouses no egg consumption by anyone - so that is clearly their motive." The video does in fact end with a call for people to adopt a vegan diet, which eliminates all animal products - meat, eggs or dairy.

Nathan Runkle, executive director of Mercy for Animals, said most people would be shocked to learn that 200 million chicks are killed a year.

"Is this justifiable just for cheap eggs?" he said.

As to more humane alternatives to disposing of male chicks, Runkle said the whole system is inherently flawed.

"The entire industrial hatchery system subjects these birds to stress, fear and pain from the first day," he said.

If God did not want them shorn, then He would not have made them sheep.

Plus you always start it. :P
How can I always start it when you always start it ;)